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nobodysuspectsthebutterfly:

So when I see “the proud lord” or “a lion still has claws” applied to a Lannister, I facepalm. Those lines are not about the Lannisters, they’re about a dead lion who tried to fight the Lannisters and lost.

And when I see “And mine are long and sharp, my lord, as long and sharp as yours” applied to a Stark, I facepalm even harder, because it’s an empty claim. It’s a claim that got the person who said it killed. Though I suppose that means it could apply to the Starks, but only in a graphic for Robb re the Red Wedding — it’s not especially appropriate to use for any other Stark that a fan hopes will defeat the Lannisters in the future.

Anyway. Sorry. Been sitting on this complaint too long, had to get it off my chest. :/

Forgive me for taking out the explanation about the Rains, for I know it well enough, and this is not meant for others as much as it is for a personal clarification. As someone who steadily uses the words of Rains on graphics and gifsets, I fail to see the point. 

It is a song about the destruction of House Reyne, yes, but it is first and foremost a song about Tywin Lannister’s ruthless war policy. So how wrong is it to use a song that praises Tywin’s merciless conduct on a Lannister graphic? Lannisters who are just as merciless as Tywin himself, often? Lannisters who are trying to wipe out dynasties, not unlike Tywin did with the Reynes?

When I (and people generally, in the Lannister fandom) write “And who are you, the proud Lord said, that I must bow so low,” on a Tywin Lannister edit, I think we are not stressing the LORD part, as much as the BOW part. Seven kingdoms united in fear of Tywin Lannister, seven kingdoms forced to bow before Tywin Lannister just like the Reynes were forced to bow, and die. I don’t see it as out of place, not even a little bit.

And the fact that The Rains of Castamere is a Lannister song, it means that it is a song that Lannisters across the Seven Kingdoms perceive as a proud anthem to the blood in their veins. It’s as much Tywin’s song as it is Tyrion’s, Jaime’s, Cersei’s, Kevan’s, Lancel’s, Genna’s and I could go on. Yes, it is a song written about Tywin Lannister, but it is also a song that belongs to every Lannister in King’s Landing, Lannisport, everywhere in Westeros Lannisters members, even the least famous ones, leap to their feet in pride at the first string.

Not to mention the fact that a song may be written for a purpose, but that doesn’t mean people can’t use its words as they wish? I am not trying to be hostile, I mean I agree with your whole explanation and it is one of my pet peeves too when people think the proud lord is Tywin. What I am trying to say is, people shouldn’t feel bad, or worse, wrong, for using the lyrics to a song that is first and foremost a Lannister song. They can adapt it as they wish. They can use “Mine are long and sharp my Lord” for Cersei and/or Tyrion, deciding to interpret it in the light of Cersei and Tyrion’s struggle to be respected by their father. Or they could use “And so he spoke, and so he spoke” for, say, Ned Stark, deciding to interpret it in the light of Ned’s attempt at warning Cersei and losing his head.

I understand where you’re coming from, I totally do, but I also think people are free to feel a song the way they want to. If they want to feel pride, and splatter the words across every graphic, let them.

Belonging is a beautiful thing, whether it is a real place or a fictional House of Westeros. And sometimes even a little thing like a song can do wonders.

onlyalittlelion:

By halfway through next season Tywin should be disowning random objects ok

omfg that’s how we can finally get the fishing scene you guys

Tywin in his fabulous boots catches a fish, reels it in, looks at it disdainfully

says “you are no fish of mine” and throws it back

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